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Submitted by: Obsidian
Comments: 46  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 08-21-2004
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I think it's damn funny that so many yanks want to move to Canada if Bush gets re-elected.

Why?

Not only is Canada reguarded as a "safe haven" for the "progressive socially minded" - it's also a country with a different govenmental background.

Constitutional Monarchy. Canada is still run by the British crown. It means we're independent - but still controled by the Queen.
Worried about a draft that Bush might drum up? Sure - come to Canada - we don't have a draft - militay sevice is voluntary! The only problem is that if the Crown decides England is to fight - then Canada is to fight too. If there is mass public objection - the Crown can drop the bullshit and take control of the Canadian Paraliment and force a draft for a war effort at any time it pleases.

Same with India

and Austraila

and New Zealand

and Jamica

and Pakistan

and Kenya

and about two dozen other countries.

So go ahead and come here - just remember the lines to "God save the Queen" and that rememberance day is november the 11th.


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#1
8-21-2004 @ 09:07:15 PM
Posted By : V8Tbird Reply | Edit | Del
That’s some bull shit. No one is going to turn their back on America just because they don't like who's in power at the moment. And if someone does, FUCK them we don't want them. Lets make one thing clear here, The USA is the greatest country in the world. I'd know, I've spend almost 5 years over seas, I've been on every contant save south America and Aussie land. (& the poles but they don't count) progressive socially minded, call them what they are, draft dodging Hippies. My Grand father fought in WWII, my uncle in Vietnam, my Father in Desert Storm and I've already done 2 tours for the war on terror. If you anit go the ball to serve, then ya go north. I don't want you in my military you damn pussie. I mean you didn't see any of us running across the boarder when Clinton was working on running this country into the ground? Know why? Cuse we knew he wouldn't be around for ever, and someone would have to be here to pick God Bless America.

[Edited by V8Tbird on 8-21-2004 @ 09:10:06 PM]


#2
8-21-2004 @ 09:18:12 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#1, No one is going to turn their back on America just because they don't like who's in power at the moment.

They will and they already do.

And screw that jingoistic bullshit...if an unskilled person is in charge, the country will go to shit. I'm not so blindly fanatical that I'll back this country no matter what stupid shit happens here or elsewhere as a result of our government. I'm not the type that would justify when we torture political prisoners.

I also don't believe in the draft, because I don't believe in blindly dying for something without questioning it. Were I drafted, though, I wouldn't dodge it...that takes way too much courage. I'd probably go overseas and then follow orders when I think they suit me. If Uncle Sam ever forces me to fight, Uncle Sam better be ready to put up with my shit.


#3
8-21-2004 @ 09:20:41 PM
Posted By : Low-Tech Redneck Reply | Edit | Del
Most of the losers who loudly said they'd leave if Bush was elected the first time still haven't left.....

#4
8-21-2004 @ 09:23:08 PM
Posted By : tanner07 Reply | Edit | Del
I would get FLAMED if I gave my 2 cents here...




So I wont. :)


#5
8-21-2004 @ 09:26:20 PM
Posted By : DA_MAISTA Reply | Edit | Del
It might be of interest that the english monarchy is a constitutional one. The queens job is to represent her country, she has no say in politics. Additionally, Great Britain has nothing to to with Canadas politics
Same with India

and Austraila

and New Zealand

and Jamica

and Pakistan

and Kenya

and about two dozen other countries.

I believe its called "sovereignty"... Jep, not only the USA´s got that stuff.



[Edited by DA_MAISTA on 8-21-2004 @ 09:26:50 PM]


#6
8-21-2004 @ 09:30:44 PM
Posted By : V8Tbird Reply | Edit | Del
Some how... I have a hard time beliveing that Kerry would be any better than Bush. To be honest, I'm not a fan of either. Bush is better than Clinton, whos goal it must of been to drive this country into the ground. No, I don't want a draft either. I don't want to have to work with someone who dosen't want to be here. Besides, in todays military, for ever 1 person who is getting shot at, there's 150 people sitting in the rear rear. So you'd have a 1 in 150 chance of ending up even in a place where you could die. Think about it. More people died in one month in Vietnam than have in all of Iraq. Skid, you'd end up typing memos in Dover Deleware or Omaha Nebraska. The only reason I've gone twice is I keep asking to go. (made $6K in 4 months on my last tour) People seem to be more willing to run away from problems than to try and fix them. If you have a problem with the US, stay and do whatever need doing to fix it, don't run off and hope it will be better.

#7
8-21-2004 @ 09:35:01 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#3, Yeah, I remember a magazine article that had a list of all the people who claimed they would leave publically, and only ONE actually left...he wasn't even an American citizen in the first place...he was some high-muckitymuck artist who went back to his home country.

#8
8-21-2004 @ 09:35:37 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
Some how... I have a hard time beliveing that Kerry would be any better than Bush.

I think he might be. The problem with Kerry though, is he's a fucking arrogant prick. Anybody who says "Vietnam was my war and I fought it" deserve to be taken to the Vietnam memorial, shown the names of everyone that died, then kicked up the ass.

Bush is better than Clinton, whos goal it must of been to drive this country into the ground.

I'm not a huge fan of Clinton either, but 8 years of peace and a constantly improving economy isn't bad. Both changed once Bush got into office.

If you have a problem with the US, stay and do whatever need doing to fix it, don't run off and hope it will be better.

Absolutely.


#9
8-21-2004 @ 09:36:31 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#7, I believe Robert Altman left too.

#10
8-21-2004 @ 09:42:40 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#8, The recession hit in 2000, if you ask any unbiased economist, so it happened when Clinton was still in office. Clinton was president at the right time. Communism had just collapsed, computers and the internet were revolutionizing businesses, minimizing costs and producing better product. We had a BOOM of cashflow in this country, and Clinton was there to set the country on cruise control. He slashed the budgets of our intelligence agencies, and stripped them of much of their power (in the name of "cleaning up our information gathering" which was a nice way of saying, "We won't get our information from bad guys"...like information from people who aren't involved with crime is gonna help us.) Him cutting those budgets and many other vital things got our budget "balanced"

In the '90s, America didn't care about shit. The only time we really did anything elsewhere in the world was bomb the hell out of a country with no warning on the eve of our President about to face a scandal.

[Edited by DiRF on 8-21-2004 @ 09:46:00 PM]


#11
8-21-2004 @ 09:42:52 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#9, NM, I just looked it up. Altman used the lamest excuse of all the celebrities. The only one that left was Pierre Salinger, who was a secretary for John Kennedy.

#12
8-21-2004 @ 09:45:06 PM
Posted By : thirtyseven Reply | Edit | Del
#6, Wow! 18K a year! I can make that, erm, at McDonalds, actually.

#13
8-21-2004 @ 09:46:58 PM
Posted By : V8Tbird Reply | Edit | Del
Actually, the recession started at the end of the Clinton era. Bush inherited that. But a lot of what Clinton did went kind of unnoticed. Things like Military pay rises when less than the rise in Cost of Living each year. You had military members on Food stamps. He destroyed much of out intelligence network. I don't care that he got a BJ in his office, what bothered me was his lying about it. I don't know if I'd call what we did in the Balkans, Black Hawk Down, and so on an era of peace either. People died there too ya know. Ok so we lost Robert Altman, who no one cared about to start with.

#14
8-21-2004 @ 09:48:50 PM
Posted By : V8Tbird Reply | Edit | Del
#12, thats on top of my base pay. That was an EXTRA $6K.

#15
8-21-2004 @ 09:49:27 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#5, Chew on this.

http://www.filibustercartoons.com/c...1_mnrchy_pr.php

(I know it's from filibuster Skid - but it works in a pinch)


#16
8-21-2004 @ 09:49:33 PM
Posted By : thirtyseven Reply | Edit | Del
#14, Wow, that's worth dying for.

#17
8-21-2004 @ 09:53:46 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#10, He slashed the budgets of our intelligence agencies, and stripped them of much of their power

You should double check your sources. Clinton tripled the budget for the FBI, and doubled the overall U.S. counterterrorism budget.


#18
8-21-2004 @ 09:55:54 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#15, Why are you naming me? I didn't post #5, and I don't have a problem with Filibuster.

#19
8-21-2004 @ 09:56:06 PM
Posted By : V8Tbird Reply | Edit | Del
Well, I was only shot at a hand full of times. They did try and kidnap me once, but that didn't work out too well, seeing as I'm here. But its a way to make a living.

All humor aside. Thats life, you live you die. Its what goes on between that matters. But I have never known anyone who got killed (well, besides this one guy who electrocuted himself) As I said before, the likelyhood of dieing today is much smaller than it used to be. Besides, it sure beats making my money working at Burger King.


#20
8-21-2004 @ 09:56:17 PM
Posted By : DA_MAISTA Reply | Edit | Del
#15, Ok, sorry, I didn´t know that... could ´ve figured that out myself watching all that Indian, Canadian, Jamaican, Pakistani, Australian and the other couple dozen country´s Armys fighting for the britons in the falklands, the balkans, the gulf war and now in iraq... I mean, they´re everywhere! Did you watch the great joint canadian/jamaican offensive on Basrah? Pretty tough fighting there.

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