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on: 11-24-2005
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2003 Cobra. |
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#6 |
11-24-2005 @ 09:19:14 PM |
Posted By : thontor |
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where does 02 fit into that little comparo |
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#7 |
11-24-2005 @ 09:20:10 PM |
Posted By : Subourbon187 |
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#6, There was no SVT Cobra in 02, Ford was making way for the redesigned and more powerful 03. |
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#8 |
11-24-2005 @ 09:23:43 PM |
Posted By : ricerocketboy |
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#7, indeed. Well, no. It was because Ford fucked up in '01 and the SVT Cobra made far less than the original advertised 320HP. It actually produced around 280 or so AT THE CRANK. Ford used the time to redo the blower setup and make other changes. |
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#12 |
11-24-2005 @ 11:36:54 PM |
Posted By : Lemming |
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#4, You're both wrong.
Also, Ford screwed up really bad in '99. The '01 Cobra included all the fixes that kept the '99 from making its expected power level, but the people that were buying that kind of car seemed to want more torque. Idiots, all of them. :p |
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#13 |
11-24-2005 @ 11:38:50 PM |
Posted By : ricerocketboy |
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#12, what's your idea of the best Mustang if you're so smart? :p. Also. I am not extremely tech-knowledgable. So bear my ignorance. |
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#14 |
11-24-2005 @ 11:40:25 PM |
Posted By : Lemming |
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The one that made the most NA power with best overall balance. Which would be either the '01 or the Cobra R. I just like ridiculing the '03-04 because I think it's ugly and excessively heavy.
edit: Now, if I'd been thinking, I'd have ditched the idea of forced induction and just converted mine to use a hot 302. If this had been the case, the answer to your question would have been "mine." :p
edit 2: Also, regarding one of your previous posts--they didn't "redo" the blower setup on the '03-04. They ADDED a blower, and they converted to an iron block to do it. Which goes with my main gripe about the '03-04.
[Edited by Lemming on 11-24-2005 @ 11:45:09 PM] |
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#15 |
11-24-2005 @ 11:46:51 PM |
Posted By : ricerocketboy |
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#14, I always thought the '01s were supercgharged. Oops. I would agree on the Coobra R. The wing sucks though.
Yea, so I am not tech-knowledgable, but was the previous Cobra an aluminum block, or what? |
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#16 |
11-24-2005 @ 11:54:23 PM |
Posted By : Lemming |
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#15, The SOHC 4.6 (used in the GTs) was iron. The NA DOHC 4.6 (used in the Lincoln Mark VIII, the Mach, and Cobras up to 2001) had an aluminum block with 6-bolt mains. It actually takes forced induction fairly well (there are a couple supercharged or TTed Machs out there), but Ford wanted to use a Roots-style blower, which tends to put a bit more fatigue on the engine. To ensure reliability (and maintain some breathing room) they switched to an iron casting and overbuilt the heck out of it.
I can sort of ignore the wing on the Cobra R. It's silly and ugly, but it's ostensibly functional. I mean, heck, it has no AC, no back seat, and a bunch of other goofiness. It's basically a factory-stock club racer, and club racers are pretty much silly cars by definition.
[Edited by Lemming on 11-24-2005 @ 11:55:22 PM] |
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#17 |
11-25-2005 @ 12:01:35 AM |
Posted By : ricerocketboy |
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#16, oh true. After reading your post, why the fuck would Ford build 2 diff 4.6s. Wouldn't it be cheaper to build one, and use it in all cars? Also, or the F150s and Crowns iron of aluminum blocks. Wasn't the '95 R (which looked almost identical to a GT bodywise) a club racer too, or am I thinking of a diffrent car? |
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#18 |
11-25-2005 @ 12:10:06 AM |
Posted By : Lemming |
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As far as I know, all the SOHC engines (F150, Crown Vic, Thunderbird, Cougar, etc) were cast iron and the Mustang GT still is.
Ford has actually gone through several 4.6L castings; I'd rather not go into the details. Do a Google query on "Romeo vs. Windsor Ford V8" and you might get an idea of what I'm talking about. I think that the aluminum block seemed like a good idea as a "premium" engine, and the added cost of building all V8s on that same block wasn't worth it. I haven't looked into it in detail, but I doubt there's really too much difference in design between the two castings, besides the mains work.
The earlier SN95 R models were similarly stupid automobiles, but I don't pretend to know the details. |
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#19 |
11-25-2005 @ 04:20:25 PM |
Posted By : stang392 |
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#18, they early Rs were just more of a bolt on deal. they are lacked AC, back seat, and so on, but really didn't get to crazy. the 93 has a slighty worked 302, better brakes and suspension. the 95 was pretty much the same other then the EFI 351 and Tremec 5 speed. |
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