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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=53155
Submitted by: stang392
Comments: 15  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 06-08-2006
View Stats Category: Other Vehicle
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Time for aircraft history 101

Name this plane, and its mark on history


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#1
6-08-2006 @ 02:16:18 PM
Posted By : 89Rettagt Reply | Edit | Del
competetor to mescherschmitt

first jet powered air craft.


#2
6-08-2006 @ 05:02:01 PM
Posted By : stang392 Reply | Edit | Del
you got the history right, got a name?

#3
6-08-2006 @ 05:04:06 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
Heinkel He 178

#4
6-08-2006 @ 05:05:19 PM
Posted By : stang392 Reply | Edit | Del
bingo

#5
6-08-2006 @ 06:04:43 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
The first plane to actually use the principles of a jet engine was the Coanda-1910 (Romania), named after it's inventor Henri Coanda. But, unlike modern jet planes, it use a piston engine as opposed to a turbine. It also crashed and burned on it's test flight. Then the Germans had the Heinkel in 39, two years later the British developed the Gloster Meteor, and in 42 the US came out with the P-59 Airacomet. The first jet fighter was the Messerschmitt Me 262 which, along with the Gloster Meteor, started production near the end of WW2. The Japanese also borrowed designs from the Germans for their Nakajima Kikka in 1945.

#6
6-08-2006 @ 09:19:09 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
It's scary to see what was about to be put into mass-production towards the end of WW2 by Germany and Japan... Japan had started preliminary widescale construction of jet-powered bombers and fighters mere days before Nagasaki and Hiroshima were hit... Germany likewise was very close to producing incredible aircraft towards the end of the war...

If the war had gone on for another year or two, it would have been MUCH more difficult to acheive victory.
If Hitler hadn't been an idiot and just left Russia alone, the war WOULD have gone on much longer.


#7
6-08-2006 @ 09:24:20 PM
Posted By : Lemming Reply | Edit | Del
If Hitler hadn't been so energetic in his persecution of the Jews, and his disdain for "Jewish science" (quantum physics), it seems possible that a few European capitals would have been vaporized. As it stands, the Germans were well behind in the development of their own nuclear program

Some of the secret weapons that they did develop (especially aircraft) were hugely impressive.

The Japanese were really scary, though--it's a good thing that we didn't have to actually launch an invasion of their homeland. Many of their major war factories were dug in to cliffsides, caves, and so on. Since they were impervious to bombing, we probably would've needed gigantic infantry landings in order to have any hope of wiping them out.


#8
6-08-2006 @ 09:42:18 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#7, Yeah, only AFTER the war was completely over did we find out that we had SEVERELY underestimated the Japanese weapons construction ability, since more than half of their warmachine was secluded deep in caves, yet, despite BEING in caves, they were relatively high-tech production facilities...

If we hadn't dropped the big ones on Japan, it is very well plausible that they would have fought to the last man... we would have lost well over a million soldiers alone...

I have to say that the war ended possibly the best way it could have... it IS a travesty that so many Japanese people had to die in those explosions, and two of Japan's most beautiful cities were entirely obliterated... but the rest of their country, their culture, their people, were spared... I can't imagine a world with no Japan. They have contributed so much to the world in the postwar.


#9
6-08-2006 @ 09:48:33 PM
Posted By : Lemming Reply | Edit | Del
I think, based on the information that we knew at the time, and even in light of some of the things we learned afterward, that the decision to nuke Hiroshima and Nagasaki was the best one we could make.

For both sides.


#10
6-08-2006 @ 10:12:41 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#9, Dropping the atomic bombs was not a good thing.
The alternative to doing that would have been even worse.

It was a no-win situation, and we had to choose the lesser of two evils.

*pauses in silence to remember those that died*


#11
6-08-2006 @ 10:15:52 PM
Posted By : Lemming Reply | Edit | Del
Exactly. It was the best of two bad options.

[Edited by Lemming on 6-08-2006 @ 10:16:16 PM]


#12
6-08-2006 @ 10:25:38 PM
Posted By : solid_snake Reply | Edit | Del
Since I was beaten to the other points I'll go ahead and say that the demonstration of destructive force was important in preventing future use.

#13
6-08-2006 @ 10:27:27 PM
Posted By : Lemming Reply | Edit | Del
Quite possibly.

#14
6-08-2006 @ 10:32:27 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#12, Absolutely. It showed what horrors humanity was capable of, and served as a wake-up call to do everything possible to not let it happen again. Mutually Assured Destruction... those three words are the only thing keeping this planet habitable.

#15
6-09-2006 @ 03:16:55 AM
Posted By : Altima35se2003 Reply | Edit | Del
Japan would have fought to then last man if many under the emperor would had their way
negative factors:
Japan's main army rifle was shit by the end of the war. many exploded during firing..bad construction by '45
Japan had no decent tanks...look that up
Japan had no decent sub-machine gun in real numbers, later quality was shit
Japan had no real pistols
Japan's jet fight was prettty much a 262
Japan was throwing decent pilots, medocre pilots and good pilots into Kamikaze program (and good planes too)
Japan's next wave was poorly though out suicide rocket fighters.


And that would have taken more than a Million Allied Soldiers.


There was a Canadian Docudrama that took all that into account plus the bombs, the decision to drop the bomb saved more than a million more like 2.5 mill. Despite what I said, Japan was ready to take as many as possible. And that was more than anyone then was willing to admit then.



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