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| Comments: 10 (Read/Post) Favorites: 0 (View) |
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on: 07-21-2006
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68 Fastback done right |
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7-21-2006 @ 03:54:56 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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YES YES YES
I'd take this over 52220 any day of the week.
When building up an old car like this, I think it's good to try and preserve the car's historical feel and presence, or at least some of it. The car doesn't necessarily have to be built out of all vintage components to achieve this.
If you want something that looks and feels like a modern car, why even buy a classic car in the first place? Buy something modern.
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7-21-2006 @ 04:14:50 PM |
| Posted By : Sensekhmet |
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#1, My words exactly. I'd try to keep all of the trim in original condition, perhaps I'd take the bumpers off (depends on how it would look and if it's a sporty car) but that would make daily driving a bit unnerving. I'd put additional headlights/foglights on (almost every classic in Europe has them: old headlights were weak). Mechanically I'd make a lot of modifications underneath (brakes, suspension) but I'd probably just replace old stuff with modern parts (shocks, brake lines, pads, disks, shoes, etc. but drum brakes would have to go I'm afraid), the engine would be balanced and it would receive some gentle touches to make it work more efficient.
I'm a fan of leaving old stuff in place, just improving it a bit.
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7-21-2006 @ 05:09:26 PM |
| Posted By : Subourbon187 |
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Good points, If I had a classic muscle or pony car such as this, I'd be compelled to leave it bone stock. Unless, of course, I needed to replace a component due to age or wear down. Only if I had a car in need of restoration would I do any serious aftermarket work. But if I wanted something to drive like a jackass with, I'd buy a new damn sports car
[Edited by Subourbon187 on 7-21-2006 @ 05:09:37 PM]
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7-21-2006 @ 06:54:24 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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I like a compromise approach. I wouldn't restore a car to be bone stock, but I wouldn't try to totally change it either. If a car came with a solid axle and leaf springs, I'd keep a solid axle but switch to something with control arms, and so on. I also like EFI.
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7-21-2006 @ 07:04:45 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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#5, I think it's a good thing. If you prefer a vintage look, there are often systems that even inject centrally just like a carburetor. A carb is a more complex, maintenance-intensive, fussy device than a good fuel injector, and if I were messing with an old car, I'd be doing it for the simplicity.
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7-21-2006 @ 07:10:47 PM |
| Posted By : Sensekhmet |
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#6, My father had a Fiat 127 with a 2bbl competition-ish carb and now Fiat Tipo with an advanced last gen 2bbl carb that runs on gas and on propane and these things require(d) only routine maintenance once a year. Of course, Fiat service seems to deny such things were ever installed in their cars (read: they know jack shit about tuning/fixing them).
Besides, installing EFI would mean huge amounts of work: whole electric system, possibly custom made head(s), etc.
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7-21-2006 @ 07:12:32 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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CFI systems generally work just like a carburetor, IIRC--use a carb-style manifold and keep the same heads. It's only the wiring that is usually a mess. I like the fine tuning possible with a modern EFI system, and good ones are extremely user friendly.
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7-21-2006 @ 07:16:12 PM |
| Posted By : Sensekhmet |
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#8, You need to speak to one of hudreds of grease-covered guys fiddling with their Fiat DOHC engines with twin DCOE Webers about how big the tuning range of these babies really is ;)
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7-21-2006 @ 07:20:18 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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It's not the tuning range. It's the precision. It's nice to have a system that will automatically "learn" enough to keep itself at or near stoich when you're just driving around, and not have to get dirty fooling with jets and metering rods and all kinds of stuff. I can literally change the entire calibration of my engine in five minutes with a laptop, and then I can record every single parameter, from engine RPM and throttle position to the car's fuel level, to find out what impact the changes have. I can certainly see the "grease monkey" appeal of a carburetor, but I like the ease of use that even a Ford EEC-IV has.
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