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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=59507	Submitted by: DiRF
Comments: 23 (Read/Post) Favorites: 0 (View)	Submitted on: 01-12-2007
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Description: Nissan Primera Estate

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#1	1-13-2007 @ 12:13:53 AM
Posted By : UFO	Reply \| Edit \| Del
Nah, the back is different. I can't recall the exact name of this thing, but it's not Primera. http://jpg.autoweb.hu/hac-e04111916_2.jpg is a primera estate I think that is the Avenir, but dont quote me on that [Edited by UFO on 1-13-2007 @ 12:17:26 AM]


#2	1-13-2007 @ 12:17:23 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#1, An Almera perhaps?


#3	1-13-2007 @ 12:20:16 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#1, That's a 2nd generation Primera wagon (P11)... and this one is not in New Zealand, buddy :) This was listed on the website AS a Primera.


#4	1-13-2007 @ 12:23:03 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#3, I'm guessing this car is in or near Germany.


#5	1-13-2007 @ 12:26:30 AM
Posted By : UFO	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#3, Granted, but I wasn't aware of there being a P10 wagon. But I'm no Nissan expert, could well be wrong. And about the NZ car industry, if it was made in Japan, there's examples of them running around here. The grille looks Primera-ey, but the rest of the front just looks different...


#6	1-13-2007 @ 12:31:18 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#4, Estonia, actually... here's the back of it http://photo.ricecop.com/pics/primerawagon2.jpg


#7	1-13-2007 @ 12:32:25 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#5, I saw an interior shot of this car, and the interior is damn near identical to that of my P10 Infiniti G20.


#8	1-13-2007 @ 12:34:09 AM
Posted By : UFO	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#6, Ahh...Rebadge jobbie. That's definitely known as the Avenir in the JDM.


#9	1-13-2007 @ 12:36:00 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey	Reply \| Edit \| Del
OK, I Googled for it and it looks like an early-90s model sold in Europe, probably Germany, the Czech Republic, Hungary any anywhere near there. Odd thing is the wagon has differently shaped corner lights than any of the sedans I've seen.


#10	1-13-2007 @ 12:37:41 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#7, That's because the Primera IS essentially the G20. Look at the 1996-2000 model and you'll see they're almost identical. http://www.thhe.dk/Nissan_Primera_01.jpg


#11	1-13-2007 @ 12:38:49 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
Ok, then the Avenir of this generation is simply a wagon version of the Primera... the doors are the same, most of the front end is the same, the interior is the same... maybe they simply kept the "Primera" name in some European markets to simplify the naming in the lineup...


#12	1-13-2007 @ 12:39:42 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#10, YES I KNOW THE G20 IS A PRIMERA... that was my point! Since the interior of this car is identical to that in my car, there's no doubt that this thing's interior is identical to that of a normal Primera sedan.


#13	1-13-2007 @ 12:40:34 AM
Posted By : Subourbon187	Reply \| Edit \| Del
looks at thread, shakes head, leaves


#14	1-13-2007 @ 12:40:44 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
Oh, and the picture you posted is of a 2nd-gen Primera... [statement edited to remove flamebait] [Edited by DiRF on 1-13-2007 @ 12:42:52 AM]


#15	1-13-2007 @ 12:42:09 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#12, Okay okay sorry, I didn't realize that you were making a point with that statement. I thought it was just an observation. My bad.


#16	1-13-2007 @ 12:44:06 AM
Posted By : UFO	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#11, Probably. They sold the Avenir albeit with a facelift, in conjunction with the P11 wagon though. Some of them with 4wd and the SR20DET from the Pulsar GTI-R. I want one of those someday.


#17	1-13-2007 @ 12:46:52 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#16, That's something that doesn't happen in America very often... a car company redesigning a vehicle, but keeping on selling the older one for a cheaper price alongside... it's actually a pretty good idea, keep the proven-car, that has had time on the market for all the bugs to be worked out, available to people who still want it... I know Ford did that with the F-150 a few years ago, as the "Heritage" model...and the Aerostar stayed on the market alongside the Windstar for a couple of years...


#18	1-13-2007 @ 12:52:26 AM
Posted By : Subourbon187	Reply \| Edit \| Del
GM also released classic versions of it's trucks for a year into the new gens model line [/2 cents]


#19	1-13-2007 @ 12:53:15 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#18, Hmmm... I guess it DOES happen in America when it comes to trucks and other commercial vehicles...


#20	1-13-2007 @ 12:53:16 AM
Posted By : UFO	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#17, They did it here for a while with the Astra. But it was quite a facelift tho. Early 90's Avenir/P10 wagon: http://images.trademe.co.nz/photose...442249_full.jpg Late 90's Avenir:http://images.trademe.co.nz/photose...024763_full.jpg

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