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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=64797
Submitted by: DiRF
Comments: 23  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 07-01-2007
View Stats Category: Truck
Y'know... as much as I like to ridicule the Shelby Mustangs for being porkers, this vehicle completely outdoes them in unnecessary weight.

The 2008 Saturn VUE. It is a COMPACT, 5-seater car-based SUV.

It weighs 4,325 lbs.

To put that into perspective, my mother's '99 Chevy Tracker, a compact, 5-seater TRUCK-based SUV weighs 2,860 lbs.


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7-01-2007 @ 04:13:44 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
The Vue, along with the rest of GM's Crossover lineup utilized the Theta platform which, although similar in some ways to Ford's CD3 platform, is essentially used to build mid-size SUVs. I don't believe there's ever been a passenger car built off of said platform. And the Vue has always been a mid-size SUV in fact the Vue was the first SUV to use the Theta platform, in fact the 08+ Vues have a slightly bigger wheelbase than their predecessors. And I also believe it's unfair to compare any vehicle on the Theta platform to a Chevy Tracker even though the Tracker was a capable little machine with a 4WD truck based frame it was still classified as a Mini-SUV (hell, just look at one) and therefore not very heavy. Also, a larger SUV on say a GMT900 platform would weigh well in excess of 6000 lbs while say something on the Delta platform would weigh about 3000 lbs. Even in terms of GVW I'd say this fits squarely in the mid-size category very well.

7-01-2007 @ 04:41:44 PM
Posted By : Sensekhmet Reply | Edit | Del
This is an SUV? My fucking junker has more ground clearance than this.

7-01-2007 @ 04:53:29 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
I used "car-based" just as a general term... why didn't you take issue with me calling the Tracker "truck-based"? The chassis the Tracker/Vitara/Escudo was on was a proprietary chassis not used by any other type of vehicle too.

...and the VUE sure as hell doesn't look like a midsize SUV... the Trailblazer and Explorer are midsize... and it's still only got 5 seats.

7-01-2007 @ 05:10:58 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
Look okay at least, but [/MR T]I ain't gettin' in 4,325 lb SUV![/Mr T]

7-01-2007 @ 05:29:24 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#3, Uh, I didn't take issue with the fact you said the Tracker was truck-based because everyone knows having a "truck-based" platform doesn't actually mean it's built on a production truck chassis. And if you were using "car-based" as a general term then there really wasn't much reason to add it at all because it doesn't make sense when you think about it. And don't tell me it's not damn close to the size of a Trailblazer because the wheelbase and overall length etc measurements are within inches of one another and the Trailblazer (at least close enough to not justify putting them into different categories imo), Vue and Explorer all seat 5. But you don't have to take my word for it, just go to a Saturn dealer and take a gander at their SUV stock.

7-01-2007 @ 05:52:53 PM
Posted By : MxCx Reply | Edit | Del
Semantics! Yaaaayy!

7-01-2007 @ 05:55:18 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#6, Just call me John Q. Nitpicker.

#5, All right, all right... I guess I didn't realize how large the VUE really is... It *looks* small, and the previous VUE was a small SUV... didn't realize it was actually that much larger.

7-01-2007 @ 06:02:03 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
#6, SEALAB 2000!

7-01-2007 @ 07:41:09 PM
Posted By : Lemming Reply | Edit | Del
#6, I'm anti-Semantic. Some defamation league or another is going to sue me any day. :p

7-01-2007 @ 08:02:52 PM
Posted By : Turrboenvy Reply | Edit | Del
I wish the auto industry would stop saying "built on X platform" when they mean "the exact same vehicle with a different front fascia." The malibu, 9-3, G6, and Aura are all built on the "same platform." The Equinox, Torrent, and new Vue...

Yeah, I know I'm a dreamer.

7-01-2007 @ 08:16:04 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
Who stole the schematics?

7-01-2007 @ 10:20:33 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#7, Yeah, I didn't mean to come on so strong and I apologize.

The Vue is lost in a sea of branding, with the advent of CUV's, small and mid-sized SUVs and all the tiny stuff it can get confusing to figure out which SUV fits in what category. We see stuff like the Expedition and the new Suburban and stare in awe at the sheer size of them and marvel at the fact they don't tip over when they turn and then we see tiny stuff like the HHR and wonder how the hell a family of four can sit in one and still have legroom, and for the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide expanse of crap in between we don't know what's what.

7-04-2007 @ 02:55:25 AM
Posted By : MxCx Reply | Edit | Del
#7, John Q was a good movie.

3-20-2011 @ 09:53:01 PM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
Apparently they're selling this as the Captiva in the US now.

3-21-2011 @ 12:10:14 AM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#13, No it wasn't.

3-21-2011 @ 12:57:29 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#15, Yes it was.

3-21-2011 @ 05:40:59 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey Reply | Edit | Del
#14, Round and round and round it goes...

This generation of VUE was a turd no matter what badge you put on it.

3-21-2011 @ 08:17:20 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#14, ...only to fleets, though. Seeing one will be a huge tipoff of "rental car!"

...which could be a problem. In Florida, years ago, they had issues with thieves intentionally targeting tourists, using the license plate numbers to tell them which cars were rental cars... (Florida has since changed that, now rental car plates are indistinguishable) ...but with the Captiva, they'll immediately know it's a tourist again.

3-21-2011 @ 10:56:07 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#18, :( But.. do enough people know about cars to know which specific model is a rental car?

3-21-2011 @ 11:13:34 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#19, Most thugs wouldn't, but the thieves that are smart enough to do basic research to better perpetrate crimes... those are the ones you gotta look out for. Remember, these people were smart enough to figure out what series of license plates were used by the rental companies.

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