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Total Votes 11
Average Score 2.00
Verdict Not Rice



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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=65522
Submitted by: Sensekhmet
Comments: 18  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 07-27-2007
View Stats Category: Car
Description:
Opel Ascona C.

The car that would be cool it it was RWD.


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#1
7-27-2007 @ 06:12:13 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
Damn J-bodies stalk me in my sleep.

#2
7-27-2007 @ 06:16:13 PM
Posted By : Sensekhmet Reply | Edit | Del
#1, What american cars were based on this?

#3
7-27-2007 @ 06:17:57 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
Buick Skyhawk, Caddy Cimarron, Chevy Cavalier, Olds Firenza, Pontiac J2000/Sunbird.

#4
7-27-2007 @ 06:22:47 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
...and as far as other cars around the world, 1st generation Isuzu Aska, Holden Camira, 2nd generation Vauxhall Cavalier, and Toyota Cavalier.

#5
7-27-2007 @ 06:23:00 PM
Posted By : Sensekhmet Reply | Edit | Del
#3, Whoa. But wait. The Cavalier and Sunfire were made until recently, still on this old platform?

#6
7-27-2007 @ 06:25:10 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#5, Pretty much.

#7
7-27-2007 @ 06:28:37 PM
Posted By : Sensekhmet Reply | Edit | Del
#6, That's insane. How did these cars get through crash tests for example?

#8
7-27-2007 @ 06:29:59 PM
Posted By : thirtyseven Reply | Edit | Del
#7, That's a good question, but a better one would be "how the hell did they sell any?"

answer:

never overestimate American consumers


#9
7-27-2007 @ 08:24:17 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#7, Probably by a very close margin, J bodies were around forever (mid-1970s) and the platform was never really changed saved for some cosmetic mods and model discontinuations over the decades. According to NHTSA the Cav had good frontal crash test ratings but side impact was lousy and overall it was just plain shit, no 2 ways about it. Check out the cringe worth specs and photos:

http://images.google.com/imgres?img...l%3Den%26sa%3DN

#8, Cheap and mildly reliable starter cars for young drivers.

[Edited by Subourbon187 on 7-27-2007 @ 08:25:31 PM]


#10
7-27-2007 @ 08:42:32 PM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
#9, 1982 actually [/nitpick]

#11
7-27-2007 @ 08:48:11 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#10, Yeah, it was designed back in the 70s during the Chevy Vega/Opel Ascona etc. times, then the oil embargo hit in the early 80s and the J body went immediately into production. It was first implemented in 1982 when the J2000 and Cimarron etc. came out.

#12
7-28-2007 @ 03:47:47 AM
Posted By : thirtyseven Reply | Edit | Del
#9, A stripper Corolla or Civic was just as cheap and a much better car to boot.

I've driven a Saturn SL - Americans have low expectations, period.


#13
7-28-2007 @ 05:50:37 AM
Posted By : MxCx Reply | Edit | Del
Ive never been in a J body I liked.

#14
7-28-2007 @ 09:37:39 AM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
Cavalier typical of American J-bodies for Sensekhmet
http://www.randrautosalesinc.com/image/1724645.jpg


#15
9-11-2007 @ 10:02:32 PM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#13, you don't like thin dashes and unsupportive seats? :P

#16
9-11-2007 @ 10:14:08 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#12, I know it sounds stupid but alot of the adults I know who have children of a driving age would rather their spawn drive a domestic car. Espescially a parent who has, for instance, a job at the Big 3. Take my friend's dad Cecil who's worked at GM for about a decade and it's a fair bet that he'd rather have his fingernails pulled out than see his kids in a Toyota. There's always going to be a certain amount of bigotry directed towards foreign car companies, espescially on part of people who grew up in the 70's.

#17
6-12-2008 @ 11:12:46 AM
Posted By : Adambomb Reply | Edit | Del
#16, Could be cause you live in Michigan :P

#18
6-12-2008 @ 12:11:47 PM
Posted By : Subourbon187 Reply | Edit | Del
#17, Well, it sure ain't California...

Lotta anti-import sentiment here because people assume that it's the success of companies like Honda, not overall lack of build quality in domestic brands or innumerable union problems or poor production planning, that's hampered the big three.


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