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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=43909	Submitted by: 427 Vette
Comments: 9 (Read/Post) Favorites: 0 (View)	Submitted on: 09-05-2005
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Description: Kleemann tuned CLS. http://photo.ricecop.com/pics/kleemann_rear.jpg

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#1	9-05-2005 @ 09:05:02 PM
Posted By : ricerocketboy	Reply \| Edit \| Del
oh so nice.


#2	9-05-2005 @ 11:34:47 PM
Posted By : ambientFLIER	Reply \| Edit \| Del
heh, kleeman still waiting on bmw tuner that gets rid of stock trunk


#3	11-03-2005 @ 10:31:07 PM
Posted By : Adambomb	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#2, BMW? Where?


#4	1-19-2006 @ 09:56:36 PM
Posted By : 427 Vette	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#2, BMW?


#5	6-24-2024 @ 12:01:28 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
Aside from Brabus for Mercedes an Alpina for BMW, third-party tuners really aren't as prominent as they once were. Perhaps it's because OEM cars have become so complicated and their bodies so precisely engineered, that it's extremely difficult for a tuner to actually improve a car, in a meaningful way, in a manner that makes financial sense? Heck, high-end factory cars are so ungodly fast now, what's the point of an independent tuner?


#6	6-24-2024 @ 10:53:10 PM
Posted By : ricerocketboy	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#5, ABT and Novitec would like a word. Though, at this point, they're almost like their own manufacturer now.


#7	6-25-2024 @ 02:26:48 AM
Posted By : Skid	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#5, I think part of it is that cars have just gotten too damn expensive relative to income. There's no room to spend more for improvement when you're already spending $100,000+ on a typical luxury 4 door.


#8	6-25-2024 @ 02:36:47 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy	Reply \| Edit \| Del
#7, $70k for a non-luxury-brand five seat SUV in top-trim as well.


#9	6-25-2024 @ 02:44:02 AM
Posted By : DiRF	Reply \| Edit \| Del
...and you can't even "order" a car with the trim/color/options you want. You're stuck with whatever the dealership gets off the boat/truck. ... it's why I've cancelled my efforts to trade-in the CX-3... what's the point if I'll be paying through the nose, and won't be able to even get exactly what I want? I'll give it two more years, when the CX-3 is a decade old... maybe then I'll have better options.

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