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| Comments: 10 (Read/Post) Favorites: 0 (View) |
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on: 07-10-2006
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Cone killin' Camaro |
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| #1 |
7-11-2006 @ 01:41:56 AM |
| Posted By : motopsycho |
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f bodies (4th gens mostly) are the only car that scare me when autocrossing - not necessarily the driver, but the car - which is the only vehicle i can see totally losing control and taking someone out.
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7-11-2006 @ 08:51:32 AM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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I've never driven one; however, I wonder why a car with a torque arm and panhard bar would have trouble handling.
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7-11-2006 @ 09:02:02 AM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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They have pretty tight steering, but had trouble with structural rigidity and most all of them came from the factory with flacid shock absorbers.
I remember mine handled just well enough to be fun on back roads. With some new shocks and body bracing, it probably would have made a fine track car.
EDIT: I'm referring specifically to 3rd gens....4th gens had fine handling straight from the factory.
[Edited by Skid on 7-11-2006 @ 09:03:24 AM]
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7-11-2006 @ 06:16:32 PM |
| Posted By : motopsycho |
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From what I've seen, the body just doesn't want to stay on the frame.
I've never seen a 3rd gen just 4ths.
Say this pic for example.
If the driver were to brake here, you would see the wheel base/chassis slow down accordingly but the momentum in the body is not going to stop, thus you'll see the body slide forward very quickly several inches, then back several inches, then center itself again.
I know what Dive & Squat are and it doesn't look like it when I see 4th gens.
I imagine if one hit a high curb or obstacle at say 60mph, the car would suddenly stop, but the body will snap off and go flying forward a few meters.
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| #7 |
7-11-2006 @ 06:37:13 PM |
| Posted By : Sensekhmet |
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#6, They are mounted on a frame?
What you describe may be a porblem with soft or worn bushings: it looks like the wheels are trying to leave the car. I saw it during a rally on a couple of beat-up cars during start and finish (they had to stop on the line so those weird wheel movements were clearly visible).
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| #8 |
7-11-2006 @ 10:00:53 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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No, they were unibody. What Motopsycho is describing sounds like a lot of soft bushings fighting a lot of momentum to me, too. Believable, although I'd at least expect the 4th-gens (or a well-maintained or modified car) to work a little better.
[Edited by Lemming on 7-11-2006 @ 10:01:14 PM]
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7-11-2006 @ 10:32:29 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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They don't do anything for the behavior described. They do, however, help prevent the body from deforming.
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