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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=61614
Submitted by: Adambomb
Comments: 23  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 03-15-2007
View Stats Category: Car
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#1
3-16-2007 @ 03:22:42 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
Ah yes, the car they killed the 6000 STE for. And it failed.

#2
5-06-2018 @ 08:14:13 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#1, Pontiac was already dead when the 6000 was new.

#3
5-06-2018 @ 08:50:36 PM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
#2, >:(

Stop telling me how to live my lie!


#4
5-06-2018 @ 09:43:18 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#2, No. Pontiac was still treading water and bobbing up and down, doing the dead-man-float ever so often... it was the dealer-demanded G3s and G5s that finally held Pontiac's head under water until the last bubble burbled.

Fuck dealers. Seriously. Aside from the COPO-days, there's NOTHING they've done to make positive contributions to the automotive industry, either for the benefit of the companies or the consumers.


#5
5-06-2018 @ 09:58:37 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#2, Pontiac was the #8 selling brand in the US for 1985 alone, right ahead of Honda and right behind Nissan. The 6000 managed 154,000 sales that year, making it the 23rd most popular model in the country, selling only about 5,000 units below the Ford Mustang.

To put the numbers in greater perspective: http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog...159-in-between/

Pontiac was doing just fine at the time. The 2000s killed them.

[Edited by Skid on 5-06-2018 @ 09:59:22 PM]


#6
5-06-2018 @ 11:59:58 PM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
Obligatory
https://youtu.be/ZgQMIaF-PRo


#7
5-07-2018 @ 01:50:16 AM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
#6, Good grief, where are Tubbs and Crockett when you need 'em?

#8
5-07-2018 @ 06:55:36 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#6, Heh, every time the Lemans had to make an appearance, it was lit and/or in motion in such a way that you could barely see it.

#9
5-07-2018 @ 04:24:34 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
Disclaimer - I used to be infatuated with the Fiero. I even tried working one into my redacted as the protagonists' car (a red 88GT non t-top, RSX 6-sp onto a 4.0 Olds Aurora V8). But looking back - I keep thinking my character would just be an typical asshole and have an RS4 - thereby avoiding the need to go through the trouble of explaining what kind of a clusterfuck the car was.

Being overtly different for the sake of being overtly different (re: heavily modified compact mid-engine car) is a fatal Mary Sue. I liked the car enough to put one in the story - but back then I couldn't even see how disjointed and out of place it was in the grand scheme of the story.

[Edited by Obsidian on 5-07-2018 @ 04:27:44 PM]


#10
5-07-2018 @ 07:16:11 PM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
#9, I wrote a story/novel/whatever draft some years ago and my protagonist utilized a number of different vehicles, but they were all ordinary cars that I found interesting. A yellow '86 El Camino and later a green '97 Legacy GT 5spd were his personal cars. I wanted an underdog hero car for a climactic chase scene so I opted for a shabby maroon '88 Cutlass Ciera Cruiser wagon. Only one Pontiac that I recall, a gray '85 Parisienne that saw some action in one chapter.

#11
5-08-2018 @ 04:21:32 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#6, Proof that Pontiac invent New Retro Wave.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ai8XbCDfXZg


#12
5-08-2018 @ 09:02:16 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#11, Do they really need to emphasize "ONLY from Pontiac!"

What, you mean I can't get a Firebird Trans Am from Wartburg?


#13
5-14-2018 @ 04:29:14 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#12, Not too far away from the people who've told me that the Pontiac Firebird is coming back BY Chevrolet.

"Nah man! In 2012 Pontiac is gonna come back! It's gonna be a special stand-alone brand within a brand! The TA will have it's own unique badging and bumpers! Its gonna be called 'Pontiac Firebird TransAM by Chevrolet'!"

"Why would they do that if Chevrolet already has the Camaro?"

"Shut up fag!"


#14
5-14-2018 @ 07:29:13 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#13, I'm guessing people get confused by those one-off, third-party customs, and assume they're factory...

#15
5-14-2018 @ 09:50:37 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#14, That - and you can add car design student concept renderings to that too.

Give them the slightest whiff of a scrap of Pontiac revival news - and they start babbling like a recently deflowered teenage girl thinking that their first love is will stay with them forever. They just can't let go of the idea that Pontiac (the brand/sales channel) is fucking gone forever - and the only reason GM keeps re-registering the name is to preserve the trademark so they can sell Pontiac branded merch to the hopeless saps who want the brand back.

Imagine how foolish it would look if Scion fans were just as vocal and obnoxious about the return of Scion - and then have the gall to tell you that the xD and xA aren't "real Scions" at annual Scion summer reunions. I've seen die-hard Pontiac fans look indistinguishable.


#16
5-14-2018 @ 10:22:16 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#15, Dude, I still think the xA was a sharp looking little econo-hatch.

#17
5-14-2018 @ 11:19:36 PM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
This is why I'm mainly glad to be a fan of defunct automakers. They can't disappoint me.

#18
5-15-2018 @ 12:23:58 AM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
#17, Nothing disappoints me more than the automakers that keep making new cars for people who hate cars and hate driving and only care about how high the seat is and if it will sync with their phone. They're just giving the public what they want but unfortunately the masses are stupid.

Those people are making ME hate cars and that depresses the hell out of me.


#19
5-15-2018 @ 04:14:24 PM
Posted By : Obsidian Reply | Edit | Del
#16, It was - and I actually liked it better than the overt xB.

But my point was that if someone only had a Sunfire or W-body Grand Prix - they would be excluded from an annual Pontiac reunion meeting because their Pontiac didn't meet an arbitrary admission standard of 'Pontiac-ness'; that the cars were FWD and had 'GM engines'.

If Scion fans were just as obtuse - the FRS would be derided as not being a real Scion because it's RWD and for being half-Subaru.


#20
5-15-2018 @ 05:24:57 PM
Posted By : wannabemustangjockey  Reply | Edit | Del
#19, I’d still bring mine to a Pontiac meet if it ran. Hell, it would probably be the only example of a 6000 STE there.
Just because I got laughed at in 2007 when I took it to a car show. Now kids are entering their early 90s FWD Fleetwoods they bought cheap from old ladies on craigslist.


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