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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=90985
Submitted by: ricerocketboy
Comments: 32  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 07-07-2014
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2015 Mini Cooper asS.


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7-07-2014 @ 12:35:57 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
The 1st gen BMW Mini was pretty neat... the second one improved the aesthetics, but added some weight and size...

...but this... holy SHIT. I mean, GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKING HOLY SHIT (where's the Tylenol?)

Nevermind the ever bloatening lineup of ungainly vehicles that BMW keeps cramming under the label. Give us the goddamn Rocketman, motherfuckers. THAT would, now, be the only car worthy of the Mini name.

[Edited by DiRF on 7-07-2014 @ 12:37:15 AM]

7-07-2014 @ 12:39:37 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
I love the first one. We owned one; it was great, but it developed hella electrical gremlins.. all the power shit quite working.. then the convertible roof went bust.. then for some dumbass reason the interior trim decided to come apart on its own.. so.. yeah.. We also had an E90 330xi whose interior suffered the same fate. Then we moved to Infiniti with nary an ergonomic issue. :) So.. I'll say this.

BMW makes pretty cars (the classics anyway), but I would never own one because they are pieces of shit.

7-07-2014 @ 01:12:22 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#2, Reading up stories on various automotive websites, and seeing various other evidence and examples, it really does seem the notion of German reliability has become quite a myth.

7-07-2014 @ 01:13:39 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#3, manual transmission VW and Audi so far are the only examples that break the myth.

7-07-2014 @ 01:24:21 AM
Posted By : Skid Reply | Edit | Del
German cars fell by the wayside between 10 and 20 years ago, depending on the model.

7-07-2014 @ 01:29:39 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#5, German cars used to built like Panzers... then they realized that didn't lead to competitive pricing on the open market, so they cut corners in the 10 to 20 years ago that you mention... damn shame.

Used to be Panzers... now just lies... as if some kind of Panzerlied... hmmm... *starts humming*

[Edited by DiRF on 7-07-2014 @ 01:37:59 AM]

7-07-2014 @ 01:31:32 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#6, I think the "new" Jetta is the worst example of this. Quite sad, really, but also, I've seen enough Jetta 2.5s to not recommend one to ANYONE. EVER.

7-07-2014 @ 01:32:39 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#7, Volkswagen decided they would build a Civic. So, they did. Surprise, a Civic without a reliability reputation to back it up is worth... bumpus.

7-07-2014 @ 01:33:57 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#8, pretty much. I would say the Civic is even a stretch. I would equate it to a second-gen Neon.. something of that Caliber. Not very Cavalier at all, really. Honestly needs to be thrown in a Sunfire.

7-07-2014 @ 01:44:54 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#9, I'll be honest... and this is probably not a popular opinion, but I personally have a very negative impression of any midsize and smaller vehicle developed SPECIFICALLY for the American market... when developing something for the American market, price is priority. Corners are cut. Engineering isn't as intensive. The move is made to sacrifice quality for space. Then they dress it up in disproportionate styling to try to make it "look" more expensive, superficially.

...and I don't mean domestic automakers... look at the new Jetta, 2nd-gen xB, the NEW Toyota Camry (complete with its fake C-pillar windows and fake front grill)...

Sometimes sporty cars developed specifically for the American market fare better... the 1st/2nd gen Eclipses and the Scion tC, for example.

In trucks, SUVs, and large cars, this isn't a problem... the price Americans are willing to pay for those leaves room to design, engineer, and build the car properly. (ran out of room.. to be continued)

7-07-2014 @ 01:48:38 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
I agree with you wholeheartedly. 2013+ Malibu would be a good example as well.

7-07-2014 @ 01:49:39 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#10, When vehicles are designed for the Western European market and/or the Japanese market, then are brought to America later, with minimal alterations, they tend to be quite good.

Of course I'm biased, but I'm talking about cars like my 2, my sister's 1st-gen xB, my old G20, my dad's Cabrio (along with older VW Jettas and Passats, and all Golfs with the exception of the 1st-gen ones built in PA)...

Honestly, Ford and GM are doing it right... they've got the Fiestas, Focii (the "2nd-gen" one sold in America was a joke), Sonics, and Sparks... all designed for foreign markets then brought here, mostly intact.

7-07-2014 @ 01:51:54 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#12, C-Max too. :P

7-07-2014 @ 01:54:13 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#11, Do you mean that it's a bad car? I don't have much experience, but the 2013 facelift makes me want to puke. First time I saw one in person, I couldn't believe that update left the styling/prototype stage...

...but then GM gets the new 2014 Impala sooooo right.

7-07-2014 @ 01:55:40 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#14, Yeah. The 2013+ is step down from the 2008-2012 cars. Driven both, I can say the four cylinder and V6 in the 09 LTZ and LS I drove felt nicer than the 2013 I drove a couple weeks ago. Quickly crossed it off my list. :( Just.. and the Eco is a joke. Oh, and the Australians get the Malibu as a Holden now.

[Edited by ricerocketboy on 7-07-2014 @ 01:56:29 AM]

7-07-2014 @ 02:00:10 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
Also, if I may, I'm in rant mode, and I'd just like to state how much I hate the Nissan Versa.

Yes, it has the room of a midsize vehicle, but the price of a compact... but good GOD is it a cheap piece of garbage. It's also quite ungainly in appearance... and they have now become the NUMBER ONE "avoid at all costs" vehicle on the roads for me.

People that don't give a shit about driving. They just want to sit down, meander down the road to their destination, with no critical thinking whatsoever... except for what their next text is going to be... they're not interested in the art of driving and commuting. They just want to sit in their roomy, spacious Versa, 5 miles under the limit, in the fast lane. At an intersection... light turns green? Oh, maybe I should let off the brake after 5 seconds... then maybe, maybe hit the accelerator, gently, after another 5 seconds... Gee, why is everyone flying by me?

7-07-2014 @ 02:01:39 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#16, Those people in this area used to all drive Hyundais and Priuses... but that was a problem, as normal, upstanding commuters drive those as well... so it was hard to guess what kind of person you were behind.

But now, they're all in Versas... making the decisions in traffic easy, knowing 99% of Versas will be rolling roadblocks.

7-07-2014 @ 02:04:54 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
#16, YES.



When I was looking at cars.. I went to a Nissan dealer to look at a Juke. Not the Nismo, just a regular 6 spd (yes, they exist, but in small numbers), and the guy there was a complete asshole. He basically demanded that I test drive a bright red Versa (I forget the trim level), and I said I wasn't looking at them (and I didn't say because they're shit, I just said there were other cars on my list), but he had two cars on my list; a Cruze LTZ, which was quite nice, but the massive recall scared me, and a yellow (hush) Beetle Turbo. I didn't even get to drive the Beetle because the guy was a complete fuckhead.

Another vehicle on my "must avoid" list.. is.. the Spark.. mainly because the people who drive them here are dumbass teen girls.

7-07-2014 @ 02:09:34 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#18, I must admit I love the Spark (and Sonic for that matter)... haven't had any bad encounters on the road with one... mostly normal, upstanding commuters.

[Edited by DiRF on 7-07-2014 @ 02:09:51 AM]

7-07-2014 @ 02:13:37 AM
Posted By : ricerocketboy Reply | Edit | Del
I like the Sonic hatch. It's the sedan I can't deal with, and the same goes for the Fiesta.

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