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URL: http://riceornot.ricecop.com/?auto=41445
Submitted by: 427 Vette
Comments: 32  (Read/Post)     Favorites: 0  (View)
Submitted on: 06-19-2005
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'05 U.S. Grand Prix.


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#21
6-19-2005 @ 07:10:42 PM
Posted By : DA_MAISTA Reply | Edit | Del
#19, But no. I am thinking that european motorsport (F1) embarrased itself today. I insinuated that there is a tendency of either embarrasment or outright disaster when transfering european motorsport to the US and vice versa. I also think that the american fans deserved their race and that the F1 and its participants failed miserably to deliver.

[Edited by DA_MAISTA on 6-19-2005 @ 07:11:04 PM]


#22
6-19-2005 @ 07:10:45 PM
Posted By : MxCx Reply | Edit | Del
#16, "The seven Michelin teams (Williams, Renault, McLaren, Sauber, BAR, Toyota and Sauber)"

#23
6-19-2005 @ 07:13:42 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
#21, Indeed. Sorry for taking your post the wrong way.

#22, well, Sauber is just such an *AWESOME* team, they should be listed twice! :P The missing team from that list is Team Red Bull, right?

[Edited by DiRF on 6-19-2005 @ 07:14:32 PM]


#24
6-19-2005 @ 07:14:00 PM
Posted By : DA_MAISTA Reply | Edit | Del
#22, Red Bull Racing is missing. Red bull was one of saubers main sponsors last season. Now they to their own team.

#25
6-19-2005 @ 07:17:40 PM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
Quoted from a GameFAQs message board:

--F1 Racing is so inferior to FZero racing.

--At this point, F1 racing is inferior to Mario Kart racing.

--Yeah, at least in Mario Kart you have EIGHT cars on the track, not six.


#26
6-19-2005 @ 08:29:26 PM
Posted By : 89Rettagt Reply | Edit | Del
did this ever suck....these are the most masterful cars ever built. beautiful. but i only saw 6 instead of 20. AGHHH!!! if i wanted 6 cars i could play gt4. this is one of the larger dissapointments in my life. my, my father and his father, left at about lap 30. i wouldve rather stayed, but oh well. f1>nascar. they shouldve cancelled the race thats all. and then did it at a later date with tires that fucking worked. FUCK A MICHELIN! this will ruin F1 in america i believe. thanks michelin. fucking french :P

#27
6-20-2005 @ 12:31:30 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
The announcers brought up an interesting point... they've recently resurfaced and diamond-ground Indy... when the IRL did a test, the tires they were using were so unprepared for the track that they had to cancel the test. NASCAR also had to cancel their Indy tire test due to track conditions.

The IRL cars, which all run Firestone tires, went back with modified tires, and everything was fine. Firestone and Bridgestone are owned by the same company. So it isn't completely insane to say that Firestone let Bridgestone in on how the track was different, and how to modify the tires.

Bridgestone had inside information that Michelin did not. IF the Michelin teams had ran, there's a good chance that tires would have blown, endangering the lives of many, MANY drivers. It'd be Ayrton Senna all over again (Driver dying due to F1's sanctioning body not giving a **** about driver safety, and then trying to shift blame after the fact)


#28
6-20-2005 @ 12:31:56 AM
Posted By : DiRF  Reply | Edit | Del
So yes, I blame the FIA for refusing to budge one iota in the name of driver safety...at least THIS time the teams knew not to run.

I posted this on GameFAQs, and copy and pasted it here since I didn't feel like rewriting it.


#29
6-20-2005 @ 01:04:14 AM
Posted By : 89Rettagt Reply | Edit | Del
safety is good. but they couldve done something else than this. rescheduled or something. this just blew.

#30
6-20-2005 @ 07:04:43 AM
Posted By : DA_MAISTA Reply | Edit | Del
#28, Actually... the Michelin guys, being not completely dumb were completely aware of the tarmac-sitruation at Indianapolis but provided their teams with the wrong tires for the weekend. They had even had appropriate tires in store and could have given them to the teams. Then, the teams would have been able to race and get some sort of penalty, like driving under probation (dont change your tires again) for the following race. That would have saved the day for the spectators, but the teams rejected and we ended up with that retarded 6-car field.
The ones responsible are in my book:
1. The assholes that run the indy speedway for being to incompetent to get their raceway ready,
2. The assholes that run Michelin for being dumb and arrogant enough to ignore the problem and
3. The teams that were unable to compromise.


#31
6-20-2005 @ 09:25:36 PM
Posted By : 427 Vette Reply | Edit | Del
"Formula One is a sporting contest. It must operate to clear rules. These cannot be negotiated each time a competitor brings the wrong equipment to a race.

At Indianapolis we were told by Michelin that their tyres would be unsafe unless their cars were slowed in the main corner. We understood and among other suggestions offered to help them by monitoring speeds and penalising any excess. However, the Michelin teams refused to agree unless the Bridgestone runners were slowed by the same amount. They suggested a chicane.

The Michelin teams seemed unable to understand that this would have been grossly unfair as well as contrary to the rules. The Bridgestone teams had suitable tyres. They did not need to slow down. The Michelin teams’ lack of speed through turn 13 would have been a direct result of inferior equipment, as often happens in Formula One. It must also be remembered that the FIA wrote to all of the teams and both tyre manufacturers on June 1, 2005, to emphasise that "tyres should be built to be reliable under all circumstances"(see correspondence attached).

A chicane would have forced all cars, including those with tyres optimised for high-speed, to run on a circuit whose characteristics had changed fundamentally – from ultra-high speed (because of turn 13) to very slow and twisting. It would also have involved changing the circuit without following any of the modern safety procedures, possibly with implications for the cars and their brakes. It is not difficult to imagine the reaction of an American court had there been an accident (whatever its cause) with the FIA having to admit it had failed to follow its own rules and safety procedures.

The reason for this debacle is clear. Each team is allowed to bring two types of tyre: one an on-the-limit potential race winner, the other a back-up which, although slower, is absolutely reliable. Apparently, none of the Michelin teams brought a back-up to Indianapolis. They subsequently announced they were flying in new tyres from France but then claimed that these too were unsafe.

What about the American fans? What about Formula One fans world-wide? Rather than boycott the race the Michelin teams should have agreed to run at reduced speed in turn 13. The rules would have been kept, they would have earned Championship points and the fans would have had a race. As it is, by refusing to run unless the FIA broke the rules and handicapped the Bridgestone runners, they have damaged themselves and the sport.

It should also be made clear that Formula One Management and Indianapolis Motor Speedway, as commercial entities, can have no role in the enforcement of the rules."


#32
6-20-2005 @ 09:27:00 PM
Posted By : 427 Vette Reply | Edit | Del
^^

Statement released by the FIA. A meeting with the FIA World Motor Sport Council will be held on June 29th with representatives from each of the seven teams that did not race.

[Edited by 427 Vette on 6-20-2005 @ 09:27:53 PM]


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