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on: 05-30-2006
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1998 Firebird:
Performance: LS1 swap, 3.42 posi rear end, Magnaflow 3" exhaust w/ e-cutout, Hooker LT's, TSP 233/239 cam, Ti retainers, Dual Springs, Hardened Pushrods, ASP U/P, Ported LS6 oil pump, NGK plugs, MSD wires, LS6 intake, P/P TB, MTI clear lid, K&N filter.
Appearance:
WW full body kit, Silver metallic graphics, 17" Hopster wheels, Raptor Hood. |
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5-30-2006 @ 07:52:53 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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Performance: LS1 swap
Certainly willing to accept the possibility that I may be wrong, but....
DIDN'T IT COME WITH AN LS1???
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5-30-2006 @ 08:22:35 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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I suppose it could have been a V6 Firebird, but in all honesty, wouldn't it have been cheaper to just buy an LS1 model? V6 models are around five large, but just twice that can net you a nice TA, and I'm sure a total LS1 conversion would cost WAY more than five thousand dollars. Even selling off the old running gear wouldn't net that much.
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5-30-2006 @ 08:58:30 PM |
| Posted By : Subourbon187 |
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#5, If it was a pre 98 model it would have had an LT1, but even then a swap would be totally unnecessary. I don't see the rationale behind this at all
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5-30-2006 @ 09:04:14 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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I'll be the first to admit that engine swaps on base-model pony cars don't make the most economic sense. I'm assuming that this did, indeed, start out as a 3.8L V6, and although the LS1 is a nice upgrade, I'm not sure that I understand. Maybe if he destroyed the factory engine and needed to swap something in, yes, but short of that, it just doesn't make that much sense. Unless there are a lot of suspension improvements (or something) he's not listing, there's nothing so special about the car that he couldn't have accomplished with a stock TA.
Heck, I wouldn't have repowered my own car if necessity didn't dictate. In my current situation, yes, I'd repower it again, but the cost of duplicating the suspension/chassis setup pretty much seals the deal there.
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5-30-2006 @ 11:59:54 PM |
| Posted By : MxCx |
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#8, Where the hell are there crate LS1s for that much??
Im not doubting you, I really wanna know. If this summer goes well and I get a job in the fall, Ill be looking at an 80s domestic v8 project in the spring..and a 4k LS1 REALLY tickles my fancy.
[Edited by MxCx on 5-31-2006 @ 12:00:57 AM]
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5-31-2006 @ 12:04:18 AM |
| Posted By : Subourbon187 |
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It would be a cool project but after all is said and done you'd save a great deal of aggrivation just buying a Trans Am
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5-31-2006 @ 12:10:32 AM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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Here's why I said it doesn't make much sense. I know it's often hard to get cars at close to "market value" if they are actually in demand, but...
Edmunds' private party sale value for a 1998 Trans Am is $6,987. For a base Firebird? $4,912. That's roughly $2K difference. If there are any other differences between a Trans Am and a base Firebird other than the engine, logic totally disappears.
Between a loaded V6 and a loaded Trans Am, in my ZIP, it's $6,738 vs. $9,248.
Might it make sense for the HP benefit, if you've already got a car that you've done some work to? Yes. Does it make any sense from a resale point of view? Hell, no, because modification generally reduces the resale value of a car unless you find some other similarly-minded nutcase to sell it to.
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5-31-2006 @ 12:28:47 AM |
| Posted By : motopsycho |
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#8, Only 3 or 4K? That's stupid reasoning.
That's like buying a home with an outhouse and saying, "let's get new carpet!" instead of an indoor toilet with that cash.
Why waste money on something that didn't need it when there's a more appropriate item to spend it on such as the suspension (which sucked from the factory).
[Edited by motopsycho on 5-31-2006 @ 12:29:08 AM]
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5-31-2006 @ 02:37:51 AM |
| Posted By : Sensekhmet |
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By the gods!
I have brand fucking new NGK spark plugs too, whoa, I have a motherfucking modded ride!!!!!11!11!!!1
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