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on: 03-05-2003
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These people were arrested for having these t-shirts. |
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| #21 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:11:41 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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Personally, I don't see what the big deal is. Like with flag-burning: It's free speech, and it's just a piece of cloth. But people get so damn worked up over symbolism, none of them stop to realize that when protesters burn a flag they aren't really accomplishing anything. That's why it doesn't bother me.
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| #22 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:13:48 PM |
| Posted By : solid_snake |
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Are there really any other countrys you can get away with being anti-wherever?
[Edited by solid_snake on 3-05-2003 @ 01:15:14 PM]
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| #23 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:15:02 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#22, Yeah, in just about all first-world countries.
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| #24 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:15:36 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#21, well there are people who have died for our country, and who have died so we can enjoy the freedoms that we do have. You are not only disrespecting a piece of cloth, but what it means.
There could be people in the audience who had loved ones who died in wars... where is there free speech?
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| #25 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:16:48 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#22, it is illegal in Spain, France, Germany, etc to say anything pro-hitler for example.
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| #26 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:16:56 PM |
| Posted By : solid_snake |
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#23, I know alot of brits hate the queen but I don't really care about world poltics
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| #27 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:17:11 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#24, Again: That's getting worked up over symbolism. When you burn a flag, you don't burn the country. And it's not like there is any shortage of flags.
As for the people who lost someone in a war: They have free speech. If they have anything to say, no one is preventing them from saying it.
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| #29 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:20:31 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#27, well exactly. But disrespect to those people who fought is truly one sided. What are they going to do, attack the protesters (that may be the case). It is just the media will show the story of the flag burner more than the people who respect it.
I'm not anti-free speech, I just think people should be a bit more careful how they fight their battles. Burning the flag, or turning away from it is not going to help your cause, but just make you more enemies. So in essence, we kinda agree.
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| #32 |
3-05-2003 @ 01:24:37 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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and what is wrong with symbolism? The flag means different things to different people. America is not the most perfect country, but it is where we live. We have to respect what it stands for and make an attempt to hold it's ideals up. That's what annoys me the most about flag burners and this girl - is the statements they make demonizing America - about how evil we are. True, there are moments in history that I am not proud of, but overall - hey, not bad.
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| #33 |
3-05-2003 @ 02:46:04 PM |
| Posted By : Obsidian |
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freedom of speach - that's one thing i'm glad we don't have.
it seems like anyone can do anything as long as they call it free-speach. I think i'll go rape someone - as long as i declare it as free-speach when i'm apprehended.
sorry if that hits close to home for you guys; maybe even infurates you. But the internet has "no rules".
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| #34 |
3-05-2003 @ 02:58:31 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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#33, I disagree. Free speech is generally interpreted as a concept involving things which are spoken, written, or delivered in some other form (such as electronically) which can clearly be interpreted as a form of communication or expression. It's an evolving concept; it changes from year-to-year, generation-to-generation, and it has never been interpreted as an excuse when there is a crime invovled. If a statute or federal law is interpreted as providing an un-Constitutional restraint on free speech, then it is invalidated.
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| #35 |
3-05-2003 @ 03:01:17 PM |
| Posted By : Lemming |
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#34, But it generally doesn't work the other way around, and you would seriously be hard-pressed to convince anyone that a law against, say, murder would provide an unjust restraint against free expression.
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| #36 |
3-05-2003 @ 04:10:56 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#32, Symbolism is bullshit, really. People get too caught up in it, and it really means different things to different people. I can understand, in a way, why someone gets offended when someone burns a flag in a display, but what I really can't understand is why people deify the flag, insist that there are certain ways that you have to fold and handle it, and even those assholes who actually want to make it illegal to burn it.
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| #37 |
3-05-2003 @ 05:01:47 PM |
| Posted By : ScootsMagoo |
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There's nothing wrong with being anti-American. America is an evil place.
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| #38 |
3-05-2003 @ 06:39:41 PM |
| Posted By : Asakha |
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#7, Considering the mall is actually making money out of those t-shirt, and show them in the store, I don't get why people shouldn't have the right to wear them !
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| #39 |
3-05-2003 @ 08:54:50 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#36 - don't use intellectual reductionism... Symbols and items have powerful meanings to people throughout history. Take the swastika for instance - sure it is 'just a symbol', but if I wear it around Israel (for example), I would probably get lynched.
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| #40 |
3-05-2003 @ 08:56:18 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#39, Yeah, and that's stupid too. But that's another subject.
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