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| Comments: 26 (Read/Post) Favorites: 3 (View) |
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on: 04-29-2004
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Description:
"Chevy Camaro Race Car. 500hp uses pump gas, Forest Green with black stripes tan interior, 383 small block Chevy, ported aluminum heads, aluminum radiator, billet pullies, 71,000 original miles, mint body and interior, automatic. 11.60 quarter mile, turn key. Price: $12,500"
I love it except for the automatic tranny. No Camaro should ever have an automatic. |
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| #2 |
4-29-2004 @ 12:23:46 PM |
| Posted By : MxCx |
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With what Ive heard about old manuals, Id want an auto in this... hot damn I love this car.
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| #4 |
4-29-2004 @ 03:25:30 PM |
| Posted By : ImRaptor |
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Is this really a sleeper?
I don't think it is. Reason its not to me is that camaros aren't exactly known for being a slow car and the 2-3 inch cowl on the hood sort of throws out the sleeper image as well.
Hard to make a "sleeper" that starts out as a muslce car to begin with.
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| #5 |
4-30-2004 @ 06:10:03 AM |
| Posted By : V8Tbird |
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11.6 for 12K... I'd be all over that. That is why RWD V8's still kick ass.
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| #7 |
4-30-2004 @ 10:40:05 AM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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I used to be a manual man... now I like automatics... especially for the city driving I do with a toddler in the backseat and trying to hand french fries over to him :)
A good built automatic can shift harder and faster than a manual... especially good for drag racing to get consistent testable times.
But heck yeah, manuals are fuuuuun!
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| #9 |
4-30-2004 @ 10:44:00 AM |
| Posted By : Driven_out |
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I've driven a manual... on a ford ranger... not very fun... long throws, bad clutch... atleast i know how to drive a manual now (the ranger was my first manual vehicle)
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| #11 |
4-30-2004 @ 03:52:13 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#7, They're more consistent, but they don't shift faster. The manuals still have the advantage there.
This car is practically my dream Camaro, apart from the damn cowl hood. I'm getting to the point that I hate those things on every car.
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| #12 |
4-30-2004 @ 04:01:01 PM |
| Posted By : solid_snake |
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I remember reading and/or hearing about a Ferrari trnsmission that shifted faster than it would be humanly possible to shift a stick.
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| #13 |
4-30-2004 @ 06:14:05 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#11, mebbe production stuff... but a really built TH350 (for example) with a stiff shift kit can go faster than I ever could slamming through gears... still gotta slap the clutch down, change the gear, and then release the clutch...
don't have any data to back this up of course - just by feel here
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4-30-2004 @ 08:27:51 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#13, I asked some of the guys at the MCSS site - here was one reply -"well, its the auto in every case, unless the auto is broken. its kinda hard to shift a shift lever 3 inches faster then an muto trans that only has to move a band a quarter inch or less with over 300 lbs of line pressure to do the job.
now, generally, the manual transmissions have the better ratios, which make up for the slower shifting."
sounds good to me
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| #16 |
4-30-2004 @ 08:42:48 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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#14, That same transmission would also be impossible to drive on the street.
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4-30-2004 @ 08:47:37 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#16, not really... plenty of people do it... it's just a bit rough WOT...
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| #18 |
4-30-2004 @ 08:50:30 PM |
| Posted By : Skid |
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You have to factor in the higher rpm shift points and hard shifts of a tranny like that. On the street, a manual is going to offer superior performance. This is why they're still in production, and why most hard-core performance cars don't offer automatics (most of the fastest ones use semi-autos).
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4-30-2004 @ 09:07:42 PM |
| Posted By : kstagger |
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#18, true... I said average non-drag performance and manual will be better... but still if you wanna do it right the built auto is going to be able to shift faster than anything else out there...but having said that the manual usually beats out the auto for daily street driving because they have more available gears - but that has nothing to do with the speed of the actual shift.
I think most sports cars are supposed to have manuals... not because of a performance advantage in the speed of the shift.. but in the enjoyment that people get out of doing it... manuals are fun and I'll never deny that! It's great to downshift before a corner, and then have the car in a good power band spot as you exit out of the turn... it's hard to have the auto do that right, they have a tendency to hunt for gears or go into overdrive etc at the wrong time...
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